Laura ‘n’ Mat Chat: The Beginner’s Guide

Posted by Mat on 2nd October, 2015

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Laura and Mat really liked Davey Wreden’s The Beginner’s Guide and were going to burst inside if they didn’t talk about it for 40ish minutes.

We strongly recommend finishing The Beginner’s Guide before listening to this. If not because it’s an excellent game, then because you’ll have absolutely no idea what we are talking about.

11 Responses to “Laura ‘n’ Mat Chat: The Beginner’s Guide”

  1. ManicMiner says:

    You cannot honestly believe that Coda’s games are genuine works that Wreden has illegally compiled into a non-consentual release… but I’m listening to this podcast and I can’t decide whether you are just “playing along” with the universe of the game, or if you honestly believe this… but if you honestly believe this, then you must spend a lot of time wondering why Solid Snake hasn’t been parachuted into Syria already to take out ISIS.

  2. stu101 says:

    Wow! i am flabbergasted!! Coda is real !! I …I..can’t believe that Coda is real…
    I played the game a few days ago and had mentally processed it, now i feel all uncomfortable ( Coda can’t be real- that’s impossible!!! ) : )

    Knowing the the state of mind of Davey after the success of TheStanleyParable …i just assumed that TheBeginnersGuide grew from that experience…

    What a great game though !

  3. Jack P says:

    Just to stress, nothing’s stolen – all the content in the game is created 🙂

  4. V says:

    I can’t understand why so many people don’t immediately realize Coda isn’t real. My main problem with The Beginner’s Guide is that once it’s obvious that you are watching a work of fiction, it makes no effort to give you a reason to care about anything that is happening. For me it was 10 minutes of mustered interest followed by an hour long slog of asking when it would all finally end in the most obvious way possible.

  5. Emma says:

    there was a college film project from Davey (which is available on YouTube) that included music from Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind– doubtless Davey is familiar with and enjoys Kaufman’s work

    just putting that out there 🙂

    • Emma says:

      whoops, forgot to mention

      the “physically ill” quote from “Coda” actually does have a real life source, and Davey has mentioned it before: he became very depressed and reclusive after releasing The Stanley Parable, and partially as a side-effect of that he did not treat his roommates well

      eventually one roommate said verbatim that it made them physically ill to be in the same room with him

      iirc this statement got him to seek a therapist and *I suspect* the game is dedicated to that person (For R.), since they both have the same first initial

    • Emma says:

      I can’t edit my comments, argh! in the process of listening to the podcast x)

      the trailer reveals more than exists in the game– the name “Jennifer” appears on the desktop

      the game titles in the folder correspond to the game titles (except there are more games in the folder than were shown in the game!) and you can see the dates of each game

      interestingly, the dates on the files DO NOT CORRESPOND to the dates that character+designer Davey presents in-game, another suggestion of how the narrative is being twisted

  6. John says:

    I’m chocked to find how people believe that Coda is real. Do games really have to include statements about “fictitious characters and story” in order for us gamers to get this?

  7. Ethan says:

    It will be curious to see how Davey talks about it when he feels like doing interviews – reading the comic he made about Stanley and GOTY makes me think that R is definitely real. And that R is Davey.

    • Cole says:

      Exactly my thoughts, I think a lot of it is an internal struggle, with how his work and everything he pours himself into sort of labels him as what he is. But at the same time, a lot of the raw emotion felt so real. If its real, I hate him but respect his opening up, and if its fake, its beautiful and insanely good.
      Dan from nerd cubed talks about this when he plays this and I think a lot of what he says in it makes perfect sense. You cant say you know someone based on the content they create. In a sense, Davey definitely addresses its importance of personas, and what you don’t know behind the walls. His genius use of the medium of video games as a visual representation to convey this hits home almost perfectly.

      God this game was amazing.

  8. Ray says:

    Davey didn’t steal his game and illegally published them. It wasn’t Daveys Mistake.
    He just did the step Coda never could do. But needed. You CAN’T develop games and leave all of them, years of work, behind without sharing. This destroys you. Like making music and never publish it, art, movies. A video games has to be played. So Davey published them. With their story.

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